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By josiett - Posted on 21 May 2006

Greetings from Switzerland! I took some R&R time in Italy and found someone
born in Mexico and buried in Italy! I went to Venice a couple of weeks ago
and took a water taxi across the lagoon from Venice to the Island of St.
Michele. It is a walled cemetery island in a quiet garden setting and a
wide variety of memorials. I did not look at all the burial sites since it
is extremely large but, as fate would have it, I found a beautiful burial
site of a gentleman named Salvador Yturbide. The tombstone reads:

"Salvador Yturbide, nacido en Mejico el 18 Setiembre 1849, muerto en
Ajaccio 26 Febreri 1895."

I took a picture of this and will share with anyone who may connect to this
gentleman.

Josie Trevino-Trevino

Josei and Ranchos members,

Interesting that you should send this because being a new learner of the history of Mexico, that surname rang a bell. Here is a link to an article on a famous or infamous Yturbide or Iturbide, could be spelled either way.

Thanks Josie,

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

"Josie T. Trevino" wrote:

Greetings from Switzerland! I took some R&R time in Italy and found someone
born in Mexico and buried in Italy! I went to Venice a couple of weeks ago
and took a water taxi across the lagoon from Venice to the Island of St.
Michele. It is a walled cemetery island in a quiet garden setting and a
wide variety of memorials. I did not look at all the burial sites since it
is extremely large but, as fate would have it, I found a beautiful burial
site of a gentleman named Salvador Yturbide. The tombstone reads:

"Salvador Yturbide, nacido en Mejico el 18 Setiembre 1849, muerto en
Ajaccio 26 Febreri 1895."

I took a picture of this and will share with anyone who may connect to this
gentleman.

Josie Trevino-Trevino

Sorry,

As Joseph pointed out, I forgot to include the link
Here are the links, one in english y una en español.

http://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/espanol/historia/personajes/detalle.cfm?idcat=1&idsec=5&idsub=0&idpag=1286

http://www.bartleby.com/65/it/Iturbide.html

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 12:44:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Alicia Carrillo
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mexico research in Italy
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com

Josie and Ranchos members,

Interesting that you should send this because being a new learner of the history of Mexico, that surname rang a bell. Here is a link to an article on a famous or infamous Yturbide or Iturbide, could be spelled either way.

Thanks Josie,

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

"Josie T. Trevino" wrote:

Greetings from Switzerland! I took some R&R time in Italy and found someone
born in Mexico and buried in Italy! I went to Venice a couple of weeks ago
and took a water taxi across the lagoon from Venice to the Island of St.
Michele. It is a walled cemetery island in a quiet garden setting and a
wide variety of memorials. I did not look at all the burial sites since it
is extremely large but, as fate would have it, I found a beautiful burial
site of a gentleman named Salvador Yturbide. The tombstone reads:

"Salvador Yturbide, nacido en Mejico el 18 Setiembre 1849, muerto en
Ajaccio 26 Febreri 1895."

I took a picture of this and will share with anyone who may connect to this
gentleman.

Josie Trevino-Trevino

Here's a link for Salvador:

http://www.casaimperial.org/donsalvador.htm

Rosalinda

Thanks, Rosalinda! The article is VERY interesting!

Josie

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com] On Behalf Of rosa9972
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:41 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Don Salvador Iturbide

Here's a link for Salvador:

http://www.casaimperial.org/donsalvador.htm

Rosalinda

Thanks, Alicia! I enjoyed this article as well as the one Rosalinda
referred.......Both very interesting!

Josie

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com] On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:14 PM
To: Ranchos
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fwd: Re: Mexico research in Italy

Sorry,

As Joseph pointed out, I forgot to include the link
Here are the links, one in english y una en español.

http://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/espanol/historia/personajes/detalle.cfm?
idcat=1&idsec=5&idsub=0&idpag=1286

http://www.bartleby.com/65/it/Iturbide.html

Though this is not an authoritative source, the post appears verbatum in a number of different sites which makes me think it is plagiarized from some historical source:

foros.kaliman.com.mx/discus/ messages/590/15634.html?1124947162

Fue en 1810 cuando los anhelos independentistas de los pobladores de la Nueva España, encabezados por el cura Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla, fueron descubiertos y dio inicio la guerra de Independencia. Y no fue sino hasta 1821 cuando el general Agustín de Iturbide se declaró en favor de una Monarquia Independiente.

Fue él el autor del Plan de Iguala que firmaron España y la Nueva España reconociendo aquélla la independencia de ésta.

En reconocimiento a su papel en la independencia de España el Congreso Nacional otorgó a Agustín de Iturbide un bono de la elevadísima cantidad de $ 1 000 000.00.

El 21 de julio de 1822 Agustín de Iturbide fue coronado Emperador de la Nueva España. Sin embargo el 23 de marzo de 1823 hubo de abdicar presionado por Santa Ana y Guadalupe Victoria. Y se autodesterró.

Sin embargo, en julio de 1824 regresó con su familia al puerto de Soto la Marina, lugar donde fue aprehendido por haber sido declarado traidor a la patria. El día 19 de ese mismo mes fue fusilado.

Sin embargo, el bono de $ 1 000 000.00 no había sido pagado y el gobierno reconocía su deuda ya que había sido otorgado con apego a ley. No obstante, las arcas nacionales estaban casi vacías por lo que resultaba imposible pagarlo.

Deseosos de finiquitar el asunto el gobierno mexicano ofreció en pago a la familia de Iturbide un terreno grandísimo, de cientos de leguas cuadradas en el estado de Texas. Tierras que los herederos de Iturbide simplemente deberían localizar y señalar para sí.

Durante más de veinte años los herederos de Iturbide omitieron reclamar sus tierras en Texas y ésta declaró su independencia de México. Cuando esto sucedió el gobierno de México ofreció a los Iturbide reclamar la tierra, pero esta vez en lo que ahora es California o Nuevo México. Pero los Iturbide no sentían deseos de viajar tan lejos para reclamar esa extensión territorial. Devino lo inevitable, la guerra entre México y Estados Unidos, en la que aquél perdió gran parte de su territorio.

Cuando la Comisión de Tierras de EE UU (US Land Comission) comenzó a funcionar en California, don Salvador Iturbide, segundo hijo del emperador fusilado, se presentó ante ésta para reclamar las tierras prometidas. Obvio es que no obtuvo las tierras deseadas, y regresó a México con las manos vacías.

El 12 de marzo de 1853 Lombardini concedió a los herederos de Iturbide treinta leguas cuadradas de tierras, mismas que deberían ser localizadas por ellos o sus representantes en algún lugar de Sinaloa, Sonora o Baja California.

See this link to a site documenting the descendancy of Emperor Agustin I of Mexico:

http://4dw.net/royalark/Mexico/mexico3.htm

H.H. Prince Don Salvador de Iturbide y de Marzàn. b. at Mexico City, 18th September 1849, educ. Ste Barbe Coll., Paris. Adopted by Emperor Maximilien I, and was granted the title of Prince de Iturbide with the style of His Highness, 1st September 1865. Received a pension from Emperor Franz Joseph in recognition of his position as the adopted son of Emperor Maximilian. Rcvd: Knt. of the Order of Notre Dame de la Guadalupe 1st class. m. at Mikos Castle, Mikosd, Hungary, 21st June 1871, Gizella María Terezia (b. at Széplak, Hungary, 1st February 1846; m. second, at Paddington, London, 4th August 1900, Emil Jenison, Count von Walworth, who d. at Nice, France, 10th January 1910; and d. at a nursing home in Graz, Austria, 1st April 1921), daughter of Baron Eduard Johann Nepomuk Mikos de Tarrõdhàza, by his wife, Therese María Antonia Gludovàcz, Edler Frau de Petõhàz. He d. Ajaccio, Corsica, 26th February 1895 (bur. Cemetery of S Michele, Venice).

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