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By MariaCortez - Posted on 13 May 2006

>
> Arturo & Joseph,

I believe that priests (maybe only some?) are still required to submit
genealogical type of information. The reason I say this is that I visited
an Uncle of mine who lives in the Rancho de San Nicolás de los Abundis a few
years ago. He is interested in genealogy and has done some research, so I
brought him a pedigree chart that I printed for him. His comment to me was
that it would've been nice for his son (who is an ordained priest) to have
had that chart when he needed it to present to the Archdiocese. I assume
from this comment that priests still submit their genealogies before being
ordained.

Maria

Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Priests' Genealogies (Joseph Puentes)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:41:00 -0500
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Priests' Genealogies
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Message-ID: <44652B1C.8090600@nc.rr.com>
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>
>
> arturoramos wrote:
>
> >I remember reading somewhere that priests were required (prior to Mexican
> independence) to submit a certification of purity of blood (limpieza de
> sangre). These certifications were basically genealogies going back a few
> generations.
> >
> >Does anyone know where the archives of these documents can be found?
> >
> >Has someone in the group seen one and have a sample of what they look
> like?
> >
> do you think they might be in some of these records? I've not looked
> into these records yet and would like to one day order a film to see
> what kind of info there is for them. I've got a Cipriano Puente who was
> a priest in Huejucar during the 1860's-1870's and I'd be interested to
> see if he is related. But this is after Independence so would'nt fit in
> with purity of blood idea:
>
> Title
> Documentos eclesi?sticos, 1604-1898
>
> Authors
> Iglesia Cat?lica. Di?cesis de Guadalajara (M?xico) (Main Author)
>
> Notes
> Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en
> Guadalajara.
> Ordenes de los ingresos al sacerdocio.
> Documents regarding ordinations to the priesthood within the Roman
> Catholic Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> Subjects
> M?xico, Jalisco - Church records
> M?xico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records
>
> Format
> Manuscript (On Film)
>
> Language
> Spanish
>
> Publication
> Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Geneal?gica de Utah,
> 1957-1958
>
> Physical
> 131 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.
>
> Film Notes
> Note - Location [Film]
> Ordenes 1648-1881 - VAULT INTL Film [ 168673 ]
>

I asked my sister-in-law this weekend about this issue and she stated that the reason they ask for the priests' geneaologies is that if any of their parents, grandparents or great grandparents were co-habiting with someone outside of their marriage in which they must have been married in the Catholic or if any of them had children outside of their marriage they could not be ordained as priests.

Alicia Carrillo

Maria Cortez wrote:
>
> Arturo & Joseph,

I believe that priests (maybe only some?) are still required to submit
genealogical type of information. The reason I say this is that I visited
an Uncle of mine who lives in the Rancho de San Nicolás de los Abundis a few
years ago. He is interested in genealogy and has done some research, so I
brought him a pedigree chart that I printed for him. His comment to me was
that it would've been nice for his son (who is an ordained priest) to have
had that chart when he needed it to present to the Archdiocese. I assume
from this comment that priests still submit their genealogies before being
ordained.

Maria

Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Priests' Genealogies (Joseph Puentes)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 19:41:00 -0500
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Priests' Genealogies
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
> Message-ID: <44652B1C.8090600@nc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> arturoramos wrote:
>
> >I remember reading somewhere that priests were required (prior to Mexican
> independence) to submit a certification of purity of blood (limpieza de
> sangre). These certifications were basically genealogies going back a few
> generations.
> >
> >Does anyone know where the archives of these documents can be found?
> >
> >Has someone in the group seen one and have a sample of what they look
> like?
> >
> do you think they might be in some of these records? I've not looked
> into these records yet and would like to one day order a film to see
> what kind of info there is for them. I've got a Cipriano Puente who was
> a priest in Huejucar during the 1860's-1870's and I'd be interested to
> see if he is related. But this is after Independence so would'nt fit in
> with purity of blood idea:
>
> Title
> Documentos eclesi?sticos, 1604-1898
>
> Authors
> Iglesia Cat?lica. Di?cesis de Guadalajara (M?xico) (Main Author)
>
> Notes
> Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en
> Guadalajara.
> Ordenes de los ingresos al sacerdocio.
> Documents regarding ordinations to the priesthood within the Roman
> Catholic Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
>
> Subjects
> M?xico, Jalisco - Church records
> M?xico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records
>
> Format
> Manuscript (On Film)
>
> Language
> Spanish
>
> Publication
> Salt Lake City, Utah : Filmados por la Sociedad Geneal?gica de Utah,
> 1957-1958
>
> Physical
> 131 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.
>
> Film Notes
> Note - Location [Film]
> Ordenes 1648-1881 - VAULT INTL Film [ 168673 ]
>

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