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By NathanJones - Posted on 27 April 2006

I was quite surprised to find that a Google search could turn up so much information on an ancestor.

Just for the hell of it I entered DIEGO ROMO DE VIVAR. I knew he was born in Spain in 1608, married Maria Rnagel who was also born somewhere in Spain in 1612, and that they started a large family in Aguascalientes, New Spain.

The Google search revealed that he created the town of Rincon de Romos in 1658 when he bought a hacienda owned by Pedro Rincon de Ortega that had long been named “Chora.” I thought Rincon de Romos meant the Corner of the Romos, but it actually is a combination of the former owner’s surname, Rincon, with that of the purchaser, Romo.

Rincon de Romos is 41 kilometers north of the City of Aguascalientes, in the state of Aguascalientes.
Rincon de Romos is a handsome town, from the pictures I’ve seen online it looks like a little chunk of Spain.

Has anyone been there? I will have to visit. I’ll bet there’s even a portrait of my ancestor in city hall.

I haven't been able to find anything before Diego Romo de Vivar and Maria Rangel, no parents, city or province of birth. There is a record of their crossing to the New World together.

Am I missing a source for their lineage in Spain?

Nathan,

I have just recently found some of my ancestors from Pabellon, Rincon de Romos, Ags.
Maria Cayetana Esparza Luevano would be my GGG grandmother, born in Hacienda de Pabellon about 1813 according to the marriage document. She was the daughter of Doroteo Esparza and Maria Dolores Luevano. Doroteo and Maria Dolores were married in Pabellon, Rincon de Romos. Ags on 18 Jan 1807.

I have not ordered any films from Aguascalientes yet because I ordered five rolls of films of Nochistlan Zac at the end of January when they announced the price increase so I could order just before the rates went up to $5.50. I am still working through some of these rolls and don't want to order any film until I finish with what I have on order.

I am very anxious to begin my research in Rincon de Romos but it will have to wait.
Thanks for that information.

I have been to Aguascalientes, that was back in 89/90 before I knew I had ancestors from Aguascalientes or even before I took any interest in Geneaology. That's when I was young and muy taruga about these things. It is one of the areas of Mexico that has a lot of industry. Aguascalientes has a large textile industry. They produce many fine linens, blankets and clothing. We stayed in hotels in Aguascalientes while visiting the outer provinces as it appeared to be clean, safe and concentric to the areas we wanted to visit at the time.
We'll keep in touch as we each continue our research.

Saludos..........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

Hi Alicia,

Glad to hear of you finding roots in Aguascalientes. I also have roots
there as on the death certificate of my GGG grandfather Pedro Torres it
is said he was from Aguascalientes. I don't know more than that. . .one
of the many trails that I will have to follow as time permits.

Recently I was in the Univ. of NC, Chapel Hill map room and I decided to
do some digital copies of the Aguascalientes area. I didn't do ever
corner of it but just some of the highlites. . .

In the maps Album you'll find it now broken up into five subfolders:
Reference, Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Historical, and Zacatecas.

in the Aguascalientes subfolder there is a map there called Pabellon de
Hidalgo. I think this map might be close to where your Hacienda de
Pabellon might be, but it is probably on the next map sheet over to the
right or east of the one shown. Have a look and if you want I can hunt
for it next time I'm at UNC. I think I remember seeing Rincon de Romos,
but couldn't find it on this map.

Also I've uploaded a map with a Ranchos called El Astillero. . .I think
this must be a different map from the El Astillero that Ed Serros comes
from. I thought that Ranchos was close to Valparaiso, Zacatecas. . .then
again I can't quite make out the boundaries and maybe this scan is
actually of Zacatecas.

joseph

ps: have a look in the Reference. If you see an map you'd like me to
look for you or if anyone else is hunting for something in specific all
i need is the Larger Reference number as in: F13, F14, E13, E14 and then
the specific map number: A11, A12, A13 etc.

So you'd say something like F15 B55 Valparaiso

Alicia Carrillo wrote:

>Nathan,
>
> I have just recently found some of my ancestors from Pabellon, Rincon de Romos, Ags.
> Maria Cayetana Esparza Luevano would be my GGG grandmother, born in Hacienda de Pabellon about 1813 according to the marriage document. She was the daughter of Doroteo Esparza and Maria Dolores Luevano. Doroteo and Maria Dolores were married in Pabellon, Rincon de Romos. Ags on 18 Jan 1807.
>
> I have not ordered any films from Aguascalientes yet because I ordered five rolls of films of Nochistlan Zac at the end of January when they announced the price increase so I could order just before the rates went up to $5.50. I am still working through some of these rolls and don't want to order any film until I finish with what I have on order.
>
> I am very anxious to begin my research in Rincon de Romos but it will have to wait.
> Thanks for that information.
>
> I have been to Aguascalientes, that was back in 89/90 before I knew I had ancestors from Aguascalientes or even before I took any interest in Geneaology. That's when I was young and muy taruga about these things. It is one of the areas of Mexico that has a lot of industry. Aguascalientes has a large textile industry. They produce many fine linens, blankets and clothing. We stayed in hotels in Aguascalientes while visiting the outer provinces as it appeared to be clean, safe and concentric to the areas we wanted to visit at the time.
> We'll keep in touch as we each continue our research.
>
> Saludos..........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
>
>

One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available in that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the price of fiche, and it currently costs only 15 cents each!

I'll bet we are related. Probably through the glorious Petronila Moctezuma. I'm descended from her older daughter, Ana Francisca Gabay de Moctezuma. I think you might be descended from her younger daughter Maria who married into the Luevana family.

Has anyone found a date of death for Petronila? I've gone through dozens of documents on her and none has a date of death listed, only her birth in 1550 in Aguascalientes.

It is a dream of mine to find a portrait of her. I think there is a good chance that one exists in Aguascalientes.

Hi!

I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago from
SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was on
computers now. I was very disappointed to hear that because I was able to
obtain a microfiche reader and bought a lot of microfiche some years
ago.....but then gave a friend of mine my entire Nuevo Leon microfiche set
because I knew I could order more for myself.....well, now I don't have any
for myself! If you find out that they still can sell them, please let me
know so I can order more.....Thanks!

Josie

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com] On Behalf Of
erniealderete@charter.net
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available in
that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the price of
fiche, and it currently costs only 15 cents each!

Now I've seen some things on microfiche, but not the baptismal, death,
marriage records we seem to be getting most of our info from. I see the
baptism records only on microfilm usually in 35mm but sometimes the
narrower 16mm (?). Are these the records you both are referring to or
other records. If you are talking about baptismal I would like to see an
example. I know the IGI and other types of records are on fiche, but not
the others. Can you both explain what you all are researching on fiche.

joseph

Josie T. Trevino wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago from
>SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was on
>computers now. . .
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>erniealderete@charter.net
>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
>
>One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available in
>that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the price of
>
>
>

Hi Joseph!

What I have seen on the microfiche is the name, event, parents names, etc.
Right now I do not have access to my microfiche since I am not home but if I
recall correctly they include the film number and, I believe, the batch
number. From there you go to the microfilm and view the document.
Mickey.....correct me if I am wrong.....Thanks!

Josie

-----Original Message-----
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
Puentes
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:57 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

Now I've seen some things on microfiche, but not the baptismal, death,
marriage records we seem to be getting most of our info from. I see the
baptism records only on microfilm usually in 35mm but sometimes the narrower
16mm (?). Are these the records you both are referring to or other records.
If you are talking about baptismal I would like to see an example. I know
the IGI and other types of records are on fiche, but not the others. Can you
both explain what you all are researching on fiche.

joseph

Josie T. Trevino wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago
>from SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was
>on computers now. . .
>
>-----Original Message-----
>
>erniealderete@charter.net
>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
>
>One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available
>in that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the
>price of
>
>
>

okay yes you are referring to the IGI which is the same thing as what
you see on the internet except that they stopped updating the Microfiche
version a good while back. I've heard there are some advantages and
please point out more if you know. One advantage is that you have all
the surnames grouped together by state. With the internet version you
have to supply a first name and then it only allows you to see 5000
records at a time.

What else do you like about the fiche other than if the net goes down
you'll still be able to hunt for records to later view on film.

joseph

ps: saludos to your grand-daughter

Josie T. Trevino wrote:

>Hi Joseph!
>
>What I have seen on the microfiche is the name, event, parents names, etc.
>Right now I do not have access to my microfiche since I am not home but if I
>recall correctly they include the film number and, I believe, the batch
>number. From there you go to the microfilm and view the document.
>Mickey.....correct me if I am wrong.....Thanks!
>
>Josie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
>[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
>Puentes
>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:57 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Microfiche:Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
>
>
>Now I've seen some things on microfiche, but not the baptismal, death,
>marriage records we seem to be getting most of our info from. I see the
>baptism records only on microfilm usually in 35mm but sometimes the narrower
>16mm (?). Are these the records you both are referring to or other records.
>If you are talking about baptismal I would like to see an example. I know
>the IGI and other types of records are on fiche, but not the others. Can you
>both explain what you all are researching on fiche.
>
>joseph
>
>
>Josie T. Trevino wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I tried to order a group of microfiche for Nuevo Leon a few weeks ago
>>
>>
>>from SLC but I was told they no longer sold them because everything was
>
>
>>on computers now. . .
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>erniealderete@charter.net
>>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:01 AM
>>To: research@nuestrosranchos.com
>>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.
>>
>>One way to save dinero is to order microfiche if your data is available
>>in that format. The LDS tells me they do not intend to increase the
>>price of
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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