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By makas_nc - Posted on 10 April 2006

I've just uploaded 4 maps to the albums/maps area of the group primarily
for Ken Alva showing his Ranchos: Noria de San Pantaleon. But I seem to
remember someone else talking about El Durazno and San Antonio de Belen

joseph

I am interested in communicating with anyone with knowledge of La Noria de San Pantaleon and its people.

Furthermore I have pictures of this "pueblo fantasma" that I took one year ago. If anyone is interested I can upload a few pictures if it is OK with Joseph. It is a true ghost town with a very old cemetary right next to it.

Ed Serros

Ed:

Please upload your pictures. I would love to see them. That is one of the reasons why we put up the albums function on the site. I think there are a number of people who are members of the group who have never had a chance to see what the region that we are researching looks like and it would probably be very precious for them (and me and others) to see your photos.

Ed,

with the new site we have vastly more file space than in my miserly
Yahoo days. Yahoo was limiting us in more than one way. We have more
space and now we seem to be visible now that we're outside the Yahoo
curtain. Lately we've seen an increase of interest in joining Nuestros
Ranchos at least 50-100% more than what was seen while a Yahoo group.

upload away Ed,

When I get to 60% of my capacity of the new site I'll let everyone know.
In fact I'm purchasing the minimum package now with the hosting company
(Dreamhost) so the next step up would be a dream for us to reach because
that would mean we would have a tremendous input of great material to
assist us in our research.

Everyone Upload away. Show us pictures. Teach us lessons. Tell us your
Oral History. Give us your Recipes. Share with us your Cuentos/Stories.
Sing us your Songs. Recite to us your Poems.

joseph

ps: we can all be thankful to Arturo for his wonderful Webmaster
Wisardry for this new found freedom.

pps: contact Ken Alva about La Noria de San Pantaleon.

Edward Serros wrote:

>I am interested in communicating with anyone with knowledge of La Noria de San Pantaleon and its people.
>
>Furthermore I have pictures of this "pueblo fantasma" that I took one year ago. If anyone is interested I can upload a few pictures if it is OK with Joseph. It is a true ghost town with a very old cemetary right next to it.
>
>Ed Serros

Dear Joseph,
Can we kick in with a contribution to you for sharing the cost of the
package? Marge:)

On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> Ed,
>
> with the new site we have vastly more file space than in my miserly
> Yahoo days. Yahoo was limiting us in more than one way. We have more
> space and now we seem to be visible now that we're outside the Yahoo
> curtain. Lately we've seen an increase of interest in joining Nuestros
> Ranchos at least 50-100% more than what was seen while a Yahoo group.
>
> upload away Ed,
>
> When I get to 60% of my capacity of the new site I'll let everyone
> know.
> In fact I'm purchasing the minimum package now with the hosting company
> (Dreamhost) so the next step up would be a dream for us to reach
> because
> that would mean we would have a tremendous input of great material to
> assist us in our research.
>
> Everyone Upload away. Show us pictures. Teach us lessons. Tell us your
> Oral History. Give us your Recipes. Share with us your Cuentos/Stories.
> Sing us your Songs. Recite to us your Poems.
>
> joseph
>
> ps: we can all be thankful to Arturo for his wonderful Webmaster
> Wisardry for this new found freedom.
>
> pps: contact Ken Alva about La Noria de San Pantaleon.
>
>
>
> Edward Serros wrote:
>
>> I am interested in communicating with anyone with knowledge of La
>> Noria de San Pantaleon and its people.
>>
>> Furthermore I have pictures of this "pueblo fantasma" that I took one
>> year ago. If anyone is interested I can upload a few pictures if it
>> is OK with Joseph. It is a true ghost town with a very old cemetary
>> right next to it.
>>
>> Ed Serros

yes when and if the need comes about for us to upgrade to the next
DreamHost service plan I'll accept donations. Right now I've got it
covered. Here are our figures:

used:
Totals: 784.548 MB

Available is 1/2 of 22900MB since I've got my NuestraFamiliaUnida
podcast on it as well. So 1/2 is 11450MB and we haven't reached 1000MB
yet. So we can grow roughly 10 times larger than we are now before I
start sweating like I was on the Yahoo group.

Arturo Am I correctly estimating this?

joseph

Margarita Vallazza wrote:

>Dear Joseph,
>Can we kick in with a contribution to you for sharing the cost of the
>package? Marge:)
>
>On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ed,
>>
>>with the new site we have vastly more file space than in my miserly
>>Yahoo days. Yahoo was limiting us in more than one way. We have more
>>space and now we seem to be visible now that we're outside the Yahoo
>>curtain. Lately we've seen an increase of interest in joining Nuestros
>>Ranchos at least 50-100% more than what was seen while a Yahoo group.
>>
>>upload away Ed,
>>
>>When I get to 60% of my capacity of the new site I'll let everyone
>>know.
>>In fact I'm purchasing the minimum package now with the hosting company
>>(Dreamhost) so the next step up would be a dream for us to reach
>>because
>>that would mean we would have a tremendous input of great material to
>>assist us in our research.
>>
>>Everyone Upload away. Show us pictures. Teach us lessons. Tell us your
>>Oral History. Give us your Recipes. Share with us your Cuentos/Stories.
>>Sing us your Songs. Recite to us your Poems.
>>
>>joseph
>>
>>ps: we can all be thankful to Arturo for his wonderful Webmaster
>>Wisardry for this new found freedom.
>>
>>pps: contact Ken Alva about La Noria de San Pantaleon.
>>
>>
>>
>>Edward Serros wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I am interested in communicating with anyone with knowledge of La
>>>Noria de San Pantaleon and its people.
>>>
>>>Furthermore I have pictures of this "pueblo fantasma" that I took one
>>>year ago. If anyone is interested I can upload a few pictures if it
>>>is OK with Joseph. It is a true ghost town with a very old cemetary
>>>right next to it.
>>>
>>>Ed Serros

Well, where shall I send it? Marge:)
On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> yes when and if the need comes about for us to upgrade to the next
> DreamHost service plan I'll accept donations. Right now I've got it
> covered. Here are our figures:
>
> used:
> Totals: 784.548 MB
>
>
> Available is 1/2 of 22900MB since I've got my NuestraFamiliaUnida
> podcast on it as well. So 1/2 is 11450MB and we haven't reached 1000MB
> yet. So we can grow roughly 10 times larger than we are now before I
> start sweating like I was on the Yahoo group.
>
> Arturo Am I correctly estimating this?
>
> joseph
>
>
>
>
> Margarita Vallazza wrote:
>
>> Dear Joseph,
>> Can we kick in with a contribution to you for sharing the cost of the
>> package? Marge:)
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ed,
>>>
>>> with the new site we have vastly more file space than in my miserly
>>> Yahoo days. Yahoo was limiting us in more than one way. We have more
>>> space and now we seem to be visible now that we're outside the Yahoo
>>> curtain. Lately we've seen an increase of interest in joining
>>> Nuestros
>>> Ranchos at least 50-100% more than what was seen while a Yahoo group.
>>>
>>> upload away Ed,
>>>
>>> When I get to 60% of my capacity of the new site I'll let everyone
>>> know.
>>> In fact I'm purchasing the minimum package now with the hosting
>>> company
>>> (Dreamhost) so the next step up would be a dream for us to reach
>>> because
>>> that would mean we would have a tremendous input of great material to
>>> assist us in our research.
>>>
>>> Everyone Upload away. Show us pictures. Teach us lessons. Tell us
>>> your
>>> Oral History. Give us your Recipes. Share with us your
>>> Cuentos/Stories.
>>> Sing us your Songs. Recite to us your Poems.
>>>
>>> joseph
>>>
>>> ps: we can all be thankful to Arturo for his wonderful Webmaster
>>> Wisardry for this new found freedom.
>>>
>>> pps: contact Ken Alva about La Noria de San Pantaleon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Edward Serros wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am interested in communicating with anyone with knowledge of La
>>>> Noria de San Pantaleon and its people.
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore I have pictures of this "pueblo fantasma" that I took
>>>> one
>>>> year ago. If anyone is interested I can upload a few pictures if it
>>>> is OK with Joseph. It is a true ghost town with a very old cemetary
>>>> right next to it.
>>>>
>>>> Ed Serros
>>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>
>>>> To post, send email to:
>>>> research@nuestrosranchos.com
>>>>
>>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>> http://www.nuestrosranchos.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>
>>> To post, send email to:
>>> research@nuestrosranchos.com
>>>
>>> To change your subscription, log on to:
>>> http://www.nuestrosranchos.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Joseph:

If you think you can fill up 125 GB with podcasts on your other site, then yes, we only have 1/2 of the 250GB on your plan for this site. As far as I can tell we have less that 800MB used between the two sites... and that includes a fair deal of material that can be deleted (i.e. files I uploaded when building the site that are no longer needed). I think the Nuestros Ranchos site takes up less than 500MB now so we could theoretically store 20x the amount of data we currently have and more if Joseph is generous and lets this site use more than half of his disk space.

I really don't foresee this happening anytime soon.

Joseph and moderators,
I'm not sure where to post my poem in the new site. Would it be possible for me to submit it here and have one of you put it in the correct folder or file. I was thinking of submitting it to Somos Primos or your podcast, but I'm not sure how to go about doing so. Please advise..... yolanda medina perez

Joseph Puentes wrote:
yes when and if the need comes about for us to upgrade to the next
DreamHost service plan I'll accept donations. Right now I've got it
covered. Here are our figures:

used:
Totals: 784.548 MB

Available is 1/2 of 22900MB since I've got my NuestraFamiliaUnida
podcast on it as well. So 1/2 is 11450MB and we haven't reached 1000MB
yet. So we can grow roughly 10 times larger than we are now before I
start sweating like I was on the Yahoo group.

Arturo Am I correctly estimating this?

joseph

Margarita Vallazza wrote:

>Dear Joseph,
>Can we kick in with a contribution to you for sharing the cost of the
>package? Marge:)
>
>On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
>
>
>
>>Ed,
>>
>>with the new site we have vastly more file space than in my miserly
>>Yahoo days. Yahoo was limiting us in more than one way. We have more
>>space and now we seem to be visible now that we're outside the Yahoo
>>curtain. Lately we've seen an increase of interest in joining Nuestros
>>Ranchos at least 50-100% more than what was seen while a Yahoo group.
>>
>>upload away Ed,
>>
>>When I get to 60% of my capacity of the new site I'll let everyone
>>know.
>>In fact I'm purchasing the minimum package now with the hosting company
>>(Dreamhost) so the next step up would be a dream for us to reach
>>because
>>that would mean we would have a tremendous input of great material to
>>assist us in our research.
>>
>>Everyone Upload away. Show us pictures. Teach us lessons. Tell us your
>>Oral History. Give us your Recipes. Share with us your Cuentos/Stories.
>>Sing us your Songs. Recite to us your Poems.
>>
>>joseph
>>
>>ps: we can all be thankful to Arturo for his wonderful Webmaster
>>Wisardry for this new found freedom.
>>
>>pps: contact Ken Alva about La Noria de San Pantaleon.
>>
>>
>>
>>Edward Serros wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I am interested in communicating with anyone with knowledge of La
>>>Noria de San Pantaleon and its people.
>>>
>>>Furthermore I have pictures of this "pueblo fantasma" that I took one
>>>year ago. If anyone is interested I can upload a few pictures if it
>>>is OK with Joseph. It is a true ghost town with a very old cemetary
>>>right next to it.
>>>
>>>Ed Serros

Please send it to both. Somos Primos will get your poem much more
exposure, but I want to read it too.

make a word file and put in ??? (send it to me and we'll figure out
where it will go)

# Member Genealogy Files
# Reference Materials
# Books and Articles

eventually we'll probably have more catagories. Maybe one that called:
Oral Histories/Poems/Stories
maybe another called Recipes/Misc.

What other catagories do we need?

joseph

Yolanda Bobby Perez wrote:

>Joseph and moderators,
> I'm not sure where to post my poem in the new site. Would it be possible for me to submit it here and have one of you put it in the correct folder or file. I was thinking of submitting it to Somos Primos or your podcast, but I'm not sure how to go about doing so. Please advise..... yolanda medina perez
>
>Joseph Puentes wrote:
> yes when and if the need comes about for us to upgrade to the next
>DreamHost service plan I'll accept donations. Right now I've got it
>covered. Here are our figures:
>
>used:
>Totals: 784.548 MB
>
>
>Available is 1/2 of 22900MB since I've got my NuestraFamiliaUnida
>podcast on it as well. So 1/2 is 11450MB and we haven't reached 1000MB
>yet. So we can grow roughly 10 times larger than we are now before I
>start sweating like I was on the Yahoo group.
>
>Arturo Am I correctly estimating this?
>
>joseph
>
>
>
>
>Margarita Vallazza wrote:
>
>
>
>>Dear Joseph,
>>Can we kick in with a contribution to you for sharing the cost of the
>>package? Marge:)
>>
>>On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:35 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Ed,
>>>
>>>with the new site we have vastly more file space than in my miserly
>>>Yahoo days. Yahoo was limiting us in more than one way. We have more
>>>space and now we seem to be visible now that we're outside the Yahoo
>>>curtain. Lately we've seen an increase of interest in joining Nuestros
>>>Ranchos at least 50-100% more than what was seen while a Yahoo group.
>>>
>>>upload away Ed,
>>>
>>>When I get to 60% of my capacity of the new site I'll let everyone
>>>know.
>>>In fact I'm purchasing the minimum package now with the hosting company
>>>(Dreamhost) so the next step up would be a dream for us to reach
>>>because
>>>that would mean we would have a tremendous input of great material to
>>>assist us in our research.
>>>
>>>Everyone Upload away. Show us pictures. Teach us lessons. Tell us your
>>>Oral History. Give us your Recipes. Share with us your Cuentos/Stories.
>>>Sing us your Songs. Recite to us your Poems.
>>>
>>>joseph
>>>
>>>ps: we can all be thankful to Arturo for his wonderful Webmaster
>>>Wisardry for this new found freedom.
>>>
>>>pps: contact Ken Alva about La Noria de San Pantaleon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Edward Serros wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am interested in communicating with anyone with knowledge of La
>>>>Noria de San Pantaleon and its people.
>>>>
>>>>Furthermore I have pictures of this "pueblo fantasma" that I took one
>>>>year ago. If anyone is interested I can upload a few pictures if it
>>>>is OK with Joseph. It is a true ghost town with a very old cemetary
>>>>right next to it.
>>>>
>>>>Ed Serros
>>>>-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>>>Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
>>>>
>>>>To post, send email to:
>>>>research@nuestrosranchos.com
>>>>
>>>>To change your subscription, log on to:
>>>>http://www.nuestrosranchos.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

I have uploaded pictures of La Noria de San Panteleon, a place that is eerie but at the same time very peaceful and natural. When I was there I looked at the walls that were old and cracked; the next moment I could almost feel the activity and the life of the town spring from those same walls.

I have pictures of Sombrerete also. If someone has an interest in seeing this town which was used in many westerns years ago, I will upload them. It is truly a mining town. The Conde Don Fernando de la Campa y Cos, who was from the Valparaiso and Zacatecas, Zacatecas area, is buried here. The haciendas that stretch from Valaparaiso to Fresnillo and Zacatecas were built by de la Campa and his descendants. These haciendas today are simply shells of their former glory and mark the end of the personal wealth created by the silver mines of Zacatecas.

Ed

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