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By arturoramos - Posted on 10 April 2006

I have begun to systematically go through film 0443967 (Tlaltenango Matrimonios 1626-1723) since the film is not indexed. I am up to about 1642 now and about 80-90% of the marriages are for Indios with no surnames. However, there are a few indios with surnames and a few Spanish marriages interspersed there and I imagine that will increase as I go further in time on the film.

If anybody has any families/lineages that they want me to keep an eye open for while I do this, please let me know.

I have run across the following thus far. If you would like further details on any of these marriages let me know.

1629 Juan Garcia de Miramontes con Ana de Lopez
1629 Pablo de Ortiz con Ynez de Saucedo
1630 Juan de Frias Vandal con Alfonsina de la Paz
1630 Manuel Diaz con Maria Ruiz
1632 Jacintro de Lamas con Mariana Rodriguez
1632 Juan de Isabel Pinedo con Juana de Castro
1632 Antonio de Ribera con Maria de Solis
1633 Gerardo Cardosso con Catalina de Haro
1633 Pablo Flores de la Torre con Clara de Miramontes
1634 Juan de Vera con Maria de Miramontes
1634 Juan Sanchez con Tomasina Saucedo
1634 Juan Gallardo con Maria Delgado
1636 Rodrigo de Castro con Francisca de Rodas
1637 Pedro de Chabes Banuelos con Catalina de Haro
1638 Benito Gonzalez con Mariana Lopez
1638 Juan Ruiz con Marta de Bobadilla
1638 Francisco de Guzman con Catalina Gonzalez
1639 Gerardo de Lamas con Leonor Ortiz
1642 Antonio Lopez de la O con Maria Perez
1644 Joseph Munoz con Maria Cid
1644 Nicolas Perez con Gertrudis de Haro

Arturo,

Have you seen this couple:
Andres Martines Correas and Ysabel De Miramontes

They had several children in the late 1600's in Tlaltenango. Two of their children married in Tlaltenango in the early 1700's:

Francisco Anttonio Correas and Maria De Sandobal in 1705 FEB 24.
Andres Martines Correas and Thomasa Gonsales 1711 JUL 14.

Ysabel has a sister Andrea De Miramontes married to Francisco De Salsedo probably married during the same time period as Ysabel. I am trying to find Andres and Ysabel's marriage record and name of parents.

Thanks,
Angie Godina

I'm a descendant of Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos and Agueda Olague; it's
possible that his father was also a Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos. Could
you send me the info on that couple in 1637 below? I'd surely
appreciate it. Marge:)
On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:

> I have begun to systematically go through film 0443967 (Tlaltenango
> Matrimonios 1626-1723) since the film is not indexed. I am up to
> about 1642 now and about 80-90% of the marriages are for Indios with
> no surnames. However, there are a few indios with surnames and a few
> Spanish marriages interspersed there and I imagine that will increase
> as I go further in time on the film.
>
> If anybody has any families/lineages that they want me to keep an eye
> open for while I do this, please let me know.
>
> I have run across the following thus far. If you would like further
> details on any of these marriages let me know.
>
> 1629 Juan Garcia de Miramontes con Ana de Lopez
> 1629 Pablo de Ortiz con Ynez de Saucedo
> 1630 Juan de Frias Vandal con Alfonsina de la Paz
> 1630 Manuel Diaz con Maria Ruiz
> 1632 Jacintro de Lamas con Mariana Rodriguez
> 1632 Juan de Isabel Pinedo con Juana de Castro
> 1632 Antonio de Ribera con Maria de Solis
> 1633 Gerardo Cardosso con Catalina de Haro
> 1633 Pablo Flores de la Torre con Clara de Miramontes
> 1634 Juan de Vera con Maria de Miramontes
> 1634 Juan Sanchez con Tomasina Saucedo
> 1634 Juan Gallardo con Maria Delgado
> 1636 Rodrigo de Castro con Francisca de Rodas
> 1637 Pedro de Chabes Banuelos con Catalina de Haro
> 1638 Benito Gonzalez con Mariana Lopez
> 1638 Juan Ruiz con Marta de Bobadilla
> 1638 Francisco de Guzman con Catalina Gonzalez
> 1639 Gerardo de Lamas con Leonor Ortiz
> 1642 Antonio Lopez de la O con Maria Perez
> 1644 Joseph Munoz con Maria Cid
> 1644 Nicolas Perez con Gertrudis de Haro

Thanks for the clarification on the MAGALLANES saints. As I mentioned,
I am just up to 1640 (perhaps one tenth of the film) so when I get later
in the century I will look for that marriage.

As you can tell from the marriages I listed, the MIRAMONTES are
everywhere. They must have been one of the first Spanish families to
settle around Tlaltenango. I believe that there are several of them
mentioned in the 1650 census document that I found several months back
as well.

I am very excited because I have found a PINEDO very early on in
Tlaltenango. I have a feeling that this is a relative of Melchor PINEDO
de CARVAJAL, who was appointed mayor of Tlaltenango in the early 1600s
and was son of Miguel PINEDO, an official in Guadalajara at the end of
the 1500s.

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Arturo,

Have you seen this couple:
Andres Martines Correas and Ysabel De Miramontes

They had several children in the late 1600's in Tlaltenango. Two of
their children married in Tlaltenango in the early 1700's:

Francisco Anttonio Correas and Maria De Sandobal in 1705 FEB 24.
Andres Martines Correas and Thomasa Gonsales 1711 JUL 14.

Ysabel has a sister Andrea De Miramontes married to Francisco De Salsedo
probably married during the same time period as Ysabel. I am trying to
find Andres and Ysabel's marriage record and name of parents.

Thanks,
Angie Godina

Arturo,

Yes, I have noticed that there is many Miramontes. I myself also have many ancestors with the surname Miramontes.

If it is not too much trouble, can you keep an eye on these additional couples:

Francisco Antonio DE MIRAMONTES married Salbadora DE LLAMAS first child in 1713.

Antonio DE CASTANEDA married Mariana PEREZ first child in approx. late 1690's.

Andres DE CAMPOS married Juana DE RAIGOSA first child in 1704.

Juan DE CAMPOS married Ysabel FERNANDEZ DE LAMAS first child in approx late 1690's.

I listed the first child since I imagine they would have married within ten years of the first child that I have on record.

Thanks,
Angie Godina

Hi, I have just read the marriage information entry on F 443843 about Fransisco Antonio De MIRAMONTES and Salbadora DE LLAMAS., Mars 6,1712. Father of Fransisco is Fransisco P? de Miramontes. I could not read what P was standing for. It was abreviated and looked like Poiez....? I could use help with that name!. His mother was Ana Diaz.
Father of Salbadora was Juan de Llamas and mother was listed to be Isabel de Mondragon. They lived in the vicinity of Taltenango.
ullabritt

Margarita,

I have 2 dispensas that give the parents name for Pedro Chavez Bañuelos.
they are Juan Chavez Banuelos and Ysabel Soto Almeida. Pedro is my descendant also. I also have a death date for his mother 2 Nov 1697 in Jerez, Zac.
Would be glad to send you copies if you like.

Sally

Margarita Vallazza wrote:
I'm a descendant of Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos and Agueda Olague; it's
possible that his father was also a Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos. Could
you send me the info on that couple in 1637 below? I'd surely
appreciate it. Marge:)
On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:

> I have begun to systematically go through film 0443967 (Tlaltenango
> Matrimonios 1626-1723) since the film is not indexed. I am up to
> about 1642 now and about 80-90% of the marriages are for Indios with
> no surnames. However, there are a few indios with surnames and a few
> Spanish marriages interspersed there and I imagine that will increase
> as I go further in time on the film.
>
> If anybody has any families/lineages that they want me to keep an eye
> open for while I do this, please let me know.
>
> I have run across the following thus far. If you would like further
> details on any of these marriages let me know.
>
> 1629 Juan Garcia de Miramontes con Ana de Lopez
> 1629 Pablo de Ortiz con Ynez de Saucedo
> 1630 Juan de Frias Vandal con Alfonsina de la Paz
> 1630 Manuel Diaz con Maria Ruiz
> 1632 Jacintro de Lamas con Mariana Rodriguez
> 1632 Juan de Isabel Pinedo con Juana de Castro
> 1632 Antonio de Ribera con Maria de Solis
> 1633 Gerardo Cardosso con Catalina de Haro
> 1633 Pablo Flores de la Torre con Clara de Miramontes
> 1634 Juan de Vera con Maria de Miramontes
> 1634 Juan Sanchez con Tomasina Saucedo
> 1634 Juan Gallardo con Maria Delgado
> 1636 Rodrigo de Castro con Francisca de Rodas
> 1637 Pedro de Chabes Banuelos con Catalina de Haro
> 1638 Benito Gonzalez con Mariana Lopez
> 1638 Juan Ruiz con Marta de Bobadilla
> 1638 Francisco de Guzman con Catalina Gonzalez
> 1639 Gerardo de Lamas con Leonor Ortiz
> 1642 Antonio Lopez de la O con Maria Perez
> 1644 Joseph Munoz con Maria Cid
> 1644 Nicolas Perez con Gertrudis de Haro

It was probably Perez de Miramontes. Marge:)
On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:22 PM, ullabritt wrote:

>
> Hi, I have just read the marriage information entry on F 443843 about
> Fransisco Antonio De MIRAMONTES and Salbadora DE LLAMAS., Mars 6,1712.
> Father of Fransisco is Fransisco P? de Miramontes. I could not read
> what P was standing for. It was abreviated and looked like Poiez....?
> I could use help with that name!. His mother was Ana Diaz.
> Father of Salbadora was Juan de Llamas and mother was listed to
> be Isabel de Mondragon. They lived in the vicinity of Taltenango.
> ullabritt

Please do, Sally, I would love to have it...thank you so much. I think
you and I are both descended from Pedro Bañuelos Chaves and Agueda de
Olague but their son Francisco and his wife, Clara Reyes, are my
ancestors. Thanks again! Marge:)
On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Sally Quinones wrote:

> Margarita,
>
> I have 2 dispensas that give the parents name for Pedro Chavez
> Bañuelos.
> they are Juan Chavez Banuelos and Ysabel Soto Almeida. Pedro is my
> descendant also. I also have a death date for his mother 2 Nov 1697 in
> Jerez, Zac.
> Would be glad to send you copies if you like.
>
> Sally
>
> Margarita Vallazza wrote:
> I'm a descendant of Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos and Agueda Olague; it's
> possible that his father was also a Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos. Could
> you send me the info on that couple in 1637 below? I'd surely
> appreciate it. Marge:)
> On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:
>
>> I have begun to systematically go through film 0443967 (Tlaltenango
>> Matrimonios 1626-1723) since the film is not indexed. I am up to
>> about 1642 now and about 80-90% of the marriages are for Indios with
>> no surnames. However, there are a few indios with surnames and a few
>> Spanish marriages interspersed there and I imagine that will increase
>> as I go further in time on the film.
>>
>> If anybody has any families/lineages that they want me to keep an eye
>> open for while I do this, please let me know.
>>
>> I have run across the following thus far. If you would like further
>> details on any of these marriages let me know.
>>
>> 1629 Juan Garcia de Miramontes con Ana de Lopez
>> 1629 Pablo de Ortiz con Ynez de Saucedo
>> 1630 Juan de Frias Vandal con Alfonsina de la Paz
>> 1630 Manuel Diaz con Maria Ruiz
>> 1632 Jacintro de Lamas con Mariana Rodriguez
>> 1632 Juan de Isabel Pinedo con Juana de Castro
>> 1632 Antonio de Ribera con Maria de Solis
>> 1633 Gerardo Cardosso con Catalina de Haro
>> 1633 Pablo Flores de la Torre con Clara de Miramontes
>> 1634 Juan de Vera con Maria de Miramontes
>> 1634 Juan Sanchez con Tomasina Saucedo
>> 1634 Juan Gallardo con Maria Delgado
>> 1636 Rodrigo de Castro con Francisca de Rodas
>> 1637 Pedro de Chabes Banuelos con Catalina de Haro
>> 1638 Benito Gonzalez con Mariana Lopez
>> 1638 Juan Ruiz con Marta de Bobadilla
>> 1638 Francisco de Guzman con Catalina Gonzalez
>> 1639 Gerardo de Lamas con Leonor Ortiz
>> 1642 Antonio Lopez de la O con Maria Perez
>> 1644 Joseph Munoz con Maria Cid
>> 1644 Nicolas Perez con Gertrudis de Haro

Margarita,

Please send me your address to my e-mail as I have no other way of sending you this information. I will send you everthing I have on Pedro Chavez Bañuelos.
I also have a dispensa that I think may be Pedro's grandparents but have'nt 100% proof yet. I'll send that also. My ancestors are also Francisco Chavez and Clara de los Reyes.

Sally

Margarita Vallazza wrote:
Please do, Sally, I would love to have it...thank you so much. I think
you and I are both descended from Pedro Bañuelos Chaves and Agueda de
Olague but their son Francisco and his wife, Clara Reyes, are my
ancestors. Thanks again! Marge:)
On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:52 PM, Sally Quinones wrote:

> Margarita,
>
> I have 2 dispensas that give the parents name for Pedro Chavez
> Bañuelos.
> they are Juan Chavez Banuelos and Ysabel Soto Almeida. Pedro is my
> descendant also. I also have a death date for his mother 2 Nov 1697 in
> Jerez, Zac.
> Would be glad to send you copies if you like.
>
> Sally
>
> Margarita Vallazza wrote:
> I'm a descendant of Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos and Agueda Olague; it's
> possible that his father was also a Pedro de Chabes Bañuelos. Could
> you send me the info on that couple in 1637 below? I'd surely
> appreciate it. Marge:)
> On Apr 10, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:
>
>> I have begun to systematically go through film 0443967 (Tlaltenango
>> Matrimonios 1626-1723) since the film is not indexed. I am up to
>> about 1642 now and about 80-90% of the marriages are for Indios with
>> no surnames. However, there are a few indios with surnames and a few
>> Spanish marriages interspersed there and I imagine that will increase
>> as I go further in time on the film.
>>
>> If anybody has any families/lineages that they want me to keep an eye
>> open for while I do this, please let me know.
>>
>> I have run across the following thus far. If you would like further
>> details on any of these marriages let me know.
>>
>> 1629 Juan Garcia de Miramontes con Ana de Lopez
>> 1629 Pablo de Ortiz con Ynez de Saucedo
>> 1630 Juan de Frias Vandal con Alfonsina de la Paz
>> 1630 Manuel Diaz con Maria Ruiz
>> 1632 Jacintro de Lamas con Mariana Rodriguez
>> 1632 Juan de Isabel Pinedo con Juana de Castro
>> 1632 Antonio de Ribera con Maria de Solis
>> 1633 Gerardo Cardosso con Catalina de Haro
>> 1633 Pablo Flores de la Torre con Clara de Miramontes
>> 1634 Juan de Vera con Maria de Miramontes
>> 1634 Juan Sanchez con Tomasina Saucedo
>> 1634 Juan Gallardo con Maria Delgado
>> 1636 Rodrigo de Castro con Francisca de Rodas
>> 1637 Pedro de Chabes Banuelos con Catalina de Haro
>> 1638 Benito Gonzalez con Mariana Lopez
>> 1638 Juan Ruiz con Marta de Bobadilla
>> 1638 Francisco de Guzman con Catalina Gonzalez
>> 1639 Gerardo de Lamas con Leonor Ortiz
>> 1642 Antonio Lopez de la O con Maria Perez
>> 1644 Joseph Munoz con Maria Cid
>> 1644 Nicolas Perez con Gertrudis de Haro

Hi Ullabritt:

Are there any "Perez" in your family? It is hard to say without looking at
the original, looks like it could be "Perez".

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.
1gnzlz@verizon.net

From: "ullabritt"
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:22 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] marriage of 1712,Tlaltenango

>
> Hi, I have just read the marriage information entry on F 443843 about
> Fransisco Antonio De MIRAMONTES and Salbadora DE LLAMAS., Mars 6,1712.
> Father of Fransisco is Fransisco P? de Miramontes. I could not read what
> P was standing for. It was abreviated and looked like Poiez....? I could
> use help with that name!. His mother was Ana Diaz.
> Father of Salbadora was Juan de Llamas and mother was listed to be
> Isabel de Mondragon. They lived in the vicinity of Taltenango.
> ullabritt

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