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By kitty_cortez - Posted on 09 April 2006

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Report on visit to Family History Library in Salt Lake City (FHL in SLC).

Cojumatlan de Regules, Michoacan - Film Inventory at FHL in SLC
Unfortunately only 1 film number was found. Film number 654633. I see on the catalog listing a few more films showing FHL INTL Film which should mean they are at the FHL in SLC, so this could mean that these films are in High Density location. When ordering your films before a trip, they will check High Density first before ordering from the VAULT. When you get to the library, always check the file drawers to see if your films are in, if not, then go to the window and ask if they are in High Density. They will check their database and either order the film from VAULT or they go back to High Density location and bring them out to the window, usually takes one hour. Don't recall who ask to check this out so I am addressing it to all

Jalostotitlan, Jalisco - Film Inventory at FHL in SLC
ALL films are in EXCEPT
279284 thru 285
279287 thru 294
279312 thru 279316
279381 thru 279398

Arturo Ramos
Found all documents and will put them in the mail to you if we don’t see you while we are in Virginia.

Joseph Puentes
We found all documents except
Maria Phelipa de Jesus Puente Xaloma 604811 - incomplete date - wrong date? This film covered vol 8 1679 – 1771
Vol 9 1693 – 1695
Maria Catarina Puentes Aguilus - 604815 check vol 14 1809 – 1825 checked thru Dec 1820
Jose Pasqujal Francisco Puente 604815 check along with above Maria Catarina.

Helyn
We will need an 18 wheeler to bring home your documents. We got all documents except the following:
Unfortunately your Juan Carlos de Godoy Miranda b 19 Mar 1687 was not found. Film number 439844 went from Feb 1687 thru 1688. We looked forward and backwards both directions for 1 year. If we had another day, we would have checked further.
Since Rosalinda Ruiz was with us, she checked over your documents and made copies.
About your Saint Cristobal Magallanas Correra, Rich found Mateo Correra during your time frame in Colotlan, so we made a copy of page with his signature on three times. Nice clean copy. Rosalinda says she believes your Cristobal Magallanas was a priest in Totatiche, Jalisco. We didn't check that out any further.

Maria Elena Guitierrez
Found all documents, need your address so we can mail them to you.

Mickey,
I am sorry to report I never could figure out what films went with what request. When we see you in Houston later this month, I’ll explain to you the format that works for us when visiting the FHL.

Maria Cortez
I believe we found all your documents. I sealed your envelope up and can’t confirm it. I guess you will be surprised.

Yvonne Beltran
We found all your documents

Elvira
Your film number 1327059 was very hard to read. With the baptism Rich went back and forward one year and couldn’t find it. With the Marriage we found the date with a few documents, but none were yours. Rich also went back and forth 1 year.

Sometimes when FHC order films for their locations it come out in better condition. We had a film for Banamichi, Sonora and spent many trips trying to view it until a volunteer suggested we try ordering a better copy. When the original was made they must have been low on toner or whatever they use. The second copy was a little better.

All
In the two days we were there, we were able to find 19 documents of Rich’s ancestors, and 63 documents of yours total of 82. We spent 12 hours on Tuesday and 10 ½ hours on Friday with Rosalinda.
All documents are now in envelopes and ready to mail out. We will wait until we find a Post Office or in grocery store post office to verify the weight before mailing them out.
We are driving thru Wyoming right now as I type this listing and just passed a herd of antelope. Nothing else to see, kinda like the middle of Nevada, but windy. Lots of trucks.

Rich driver and
Kitty typist

It sounds like you, Rich and Rosalinda had a very productive trip.
Thank you so much for sharing your time and passion with the rest of us
and helping us out on our searches. I look forward to meeting you and
Rich next week.

As far as the Saint Cristobal Magallanes... his maternal last name is
Jara, not Correa. Rosalinda and Angie have brochures of his genealogy
that they have shared with me and I have been working on tracing back
some of his lineages a bit further. His Magallanes line goes back to an
indigenous family from Momax, Zacatecas. He was a priest in Totatiche
in the early 1900s and was killed as part of the purge of the clergy
during the Cristero Wars in the 1930s.

http://www.ramosfamily.org/nextgen/getperson.php?personID=I730

Just an FYI:
St. Cristobal Magallanes Jara
http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintc98.htm

St. Mateo Correa Magallanes
http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintm1v.htm

Helyn,
You told me once that they were related through their Magallanes Line, did you ever find the information on this?

Thanks,
Angie Godina

You mean to say that priests were actually KILLED to be got rid of as
opposed to being allowed to leave the country?
On Apr 9, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:

> He was a priest in Totatiche
> in the early 1900s and was killed as part of the purge of the clergy
> during the Cristero Wars in the 1930s.
>

not just KILLED but savagely mutulated with body parts being cut off.

joseph

Margarita Vallazza wrote:

>You mean to say that priests were actually KILLED to be got rid of as
>opposed to being allowed to leave the country?
>On Apr 9, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:
>
>
>
>> He was a priest in Totatiche
>>in the early 1900s and was killed as part of the purge of the clergy
>>during the Cristero Wars in the 1930s.
>>
>>
>>
>

¡Que terîble! Pobres. Marge:)
On Apr 10, 2006, at 5:07 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> not just KILLED but savagely mutulated with body parts being cut off.
>
> joseph
>
>
> Margarita Vallazza wrote:
>
>> You mean to say that priests were actually KILLED to be got rid of as
>> opposed to being allowed to leave the country?
>> On Apr 9, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> He was a priest in Totatiche
>>> in the early 1900s and was killed as part of the purge of the clergy
>>> during the Cristero Wars in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

Yes, there were a large number of priests killed during the Cristero
wars. Some of the priests were actually soldiers and officers in the
Cristero army and thus the government claimed that killing them was
justified since they were rebel soldiers. The others like Cristobal
Magallanes Jara were not fighting in the war, but were caught "in the
crossfire" of the violence between the State and the Church. I don't
think that he would have wanted to leave the country anyhow...

Cristóbal Magallanes Jara was born in Totatiche, Jalisco, Mexico on July
30, 1869. He was son of Rafael Magallanes and Clara Jara, who were
farmers. He worked as a shepherd in his youth and enrolled in the
Conciliar Seminary of San José in Guadalajara at the age of 19.

He was ordained at the age of 30 at the Santa Teresa Temple in
Guadalajara and subsequently served as chaplain of the School of Arts
and Works of the Holy Spirit in Guadalajara. He was then designated as
the parish priest for his home town of Totatiche, where he helped found
schools, carpentry shops and the planning of hydrological works
including the dam of La Candelaria.

He took special interest in the evangelization of the local indigenous
Huichol people and was instrumental in the foundation of the mission in
the indigenous town of Azqueltán. When government decrees shut down the
seminary in Guadalajara in 1914, he offered to open a seminary in his
parrish. In July of 1915, he opened the Auxiliar Seminary of Totatiche,
which quickly achieved a student body of 17 students by the following
year and was recognized by the Archbishop of Guadalajara, Francisco
Orozco y Jiménez, who appointed a precept and two professors to the
seminary.

Magallanes Jara wrote and preached against armed rebellion, but was
falsely accused of promoting the Cristero Rebellion in the area.
Arrested on May 21, 1927 while en route to celebrate Mass at a farm, he
gave away his few remaining possessions to his executioners, gave them
absolution, and without a trial, he was martyred with Saint Agustín
Caloca in Colotlán, Jalisco. His last words to his executioners were "I
die innocent, and ask God that my blood may serve to unite my Mexican
bretheren."

He was succeeded as parish priest of Totatiche by José Pilar Quezada
Valdés, who went on to become the first bishop of the diocese of
Acapulco.

He was canonized by Pope John Paul II on November 22, 1992.

Retrieved from
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crist%C3%B3bal_Magallanes_Jara"

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You mean to say that priests were actually KILLED to be got rid of as
opposed to being allowed to leave the country?
On Apr 9, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Arturo Ramos wrote:

> He was a priest in Totatiche
> in the early 1900s and was killed as part of the purge of the clergy
> during the Cristero Wars in the 1930s.
>

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