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By makas_nc - Posted on 16 March 2006



Do folks have an idea who is going to go to the SLC trip in October?



Josie has worked hard to get you information and it would be great if
you gave that trip a serious look if you are thinking you might go. I
for one will not be going as much as I would like to go.



If you think you might be going there is the matter of choosing a topic
for Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special session of
the seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on
nothing more than the Notario Records and how to get
a little better handle on how to research them.



So what do you all think?



joseph


I am definitely going to try to make it. I think it will be a wonderful experience and a chance to meet some Ranchos members.

Joseph, I think that is a great idea for George Ryskamp to talk about notario records. I for one have only ever seen a few in Guadalajara but I understand that these were kept in many places, i.e. their collection was not centralized. I know that there are many notarial records in Zacatecas for people who lived in the region where I am concentratin (Colotlan, Totatiche, Tlaltenango).

Estaban Valdes Salazar was also telling me that they are now in the process of organizing and cataloguing all of the municipal archives in Tlaltenango and he believes there are some notarial records there as well.

That would be a great start... how does one find out who the relevant notary would have been and where he would have archived copies of the documents he created?

I am definitely going to try to make it. I think it will be a wonderful experience and a chance to meet some Ranchos members.

Joseph, I think that is a great idea for George Ryskamp to talk about notario records. I for one have only ever seen a few in Guadalajara but I understand that these were kept in many places, i.e. their collection was not centralized. I know that there are many notarial records in Zacatecas for people who lived in the region where I am concentratin (Colotlan, Totatiche, Tlaltenango).

Estaban Valdes Salazar was also telling me that they are now in the process of organizing and cataloguing all of the municipal archives in Tlaltenango and he believes there are some notarial records there as well.

That would be a great start... how does one find out who the relevant notary would have been and where he would have archived copies of the documents he created?

Group:
 
It is going to be a wonderful trip.  Josie and I get lost
in the library....so busy we hardly have time to eat.  I am sure Geo
Ryschamp will speak on whatever subject people want....
 
Josie and I are both looking forward to meeting as many
Rancheros as we can!!!
 
Mickey

I am tentatively planning on attending in October but not sure. We will be going to Zacatecas at the end of September for Las Fiestas Patronales of Tlachichila and hope to be back by then.   My sister and I are planning a trip to Salt Lake in May and we are preparing for our trip in accordance to Rich and Kitty Cortez' lesson. I don't believe anyone presented the minutes of the March 4 Northern California meeting in Sacramento. Kitty gave a presentation on how to plan and prepare for a trip to the Salt Lake City library. I am so excited that I know I squeak every time I think about it. We are generating an Excel database that can track all the documents we need to find by family group, film number and dates, whether marriage, baptism or other, this after having identified in our database if it's a document found on the IGI or by some other method.   We are lucky to have Rich and Kitty in this group. They are two
truly remarkable and talented people. They are very caring and giving people who not only bring their gifts and talents but their kindness and humanity to all those who come into contact with them.   Thanks Rich and Kitty!!!

MMG8938@aol.com wrote: Group:   It is going to be a wonderful trip.  Josie and I get lost in the library....so busy we hardly have time to eat.  I am sure Geo Ryschamp will speak on whatever subject people want....   Josie and I are both looking forward to meeting as many Rancheros as we can!!!   Mickey
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Joseph,

Could you send me some info on this
trip?  I’ve not yet been able to log onto the sites.

 

Thanks,

Ed

 

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Puentes

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006
11:32 AM

To: LosRanchos

Subject: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October

 



Do folks have an idea who is going to go to the SLC trip in October?



Josie has worked hard to get you information and it would be great if you gave
that trip a serious look if you are thinking you might go. I for one will not be
going as much as I would like to go.



If you think you might be going there is the matter of choosing a topic for
Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special session of the
seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on nothing more
than the Notario Records and how to get a little
better handle on how to research them.



So what do you all think?



joseph




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Hi Ed!
 
Below is the info I posted to the group
earlier........following that is the update I posted a few days ago......please
feel free to contact me if you need more info or if you have any
questions.  I am open to any suggestions.  Would love to have you join
us.......So far I have about 10 persons interested in
going.
 
Thanks!
 
Josie in San Antonio
==========================================================================================================
 
The Hispanic
Conference in Salt Lake City will be held Saturday, October 14, 2006.  I
am expecting to receive the program schedule soon and will post it
then.  In the meantime, I have been informed that the Salt Lake Plaza
Best Western Hotel is now under new ownership. This has caused a price increase
in the hotel rate I had quoted in my previous e-mails. I contacted another
hotel and got good rates there as well.  I am providing both for your
convenience.
 
1.   Salt
Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel changed their price to $82.00 plus tax for a
room for two persons.  (Previously they had quoted $80.00 plus tax for a
room for up to 4 persons.)  Their website is: www.plaza-hotel.com and their
toll free number is: 1-800-366-3684.  You have to mention "Ranchos
Genealogy Group" to get the discounted price since there are a few rooms
reserved for us.  There is NO continental breakfast but they have a nice
restaurant that serves a buffet as well as good menu selections.  Since
October is a very busy time for them I was only able to hold a small block of
rooms from October 8th through October 15th.  You can choose to
stay ANY number of days between Oct 8th - 15th.
 
2.  
Howard Johnson Express Inn offered us a rate of $35.00 plus tax (total $39.32)
for a single queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total $55.05) for a
room with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons.  Go to "Google" and type in
"Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their facility as well as
comments made by other guests who have stayed there.  Their toll free
number is:  1-800-541-7639.  Mention my name (Josie Trevino-Trevino)
and "Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special rate. They offer a FREE
continental breakfast and they are about two blocks from the Library. 
There is a free trolley that passes nearby and takes you to the Library if you
do not want to walk.  This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for any
number of days you might need......provided reservations are made EARLY. 

 
Mickey and I have
stayed at both hotels in the past and like them equally well.  The
convenience of the Best Western Plaza Inn is that it is located right next door
to the Library.  Of course, you pay a little more for this
convenience.  The convenience of the Howard Johnson Express Inn is that you
can have your FREE continental breakfast, (coffee, juice, bagels, cold cereal,
etc) in your room and then either walk to the library or ride the free
trolley.
 

Each person will be
responsible for making their own reservations, travel arrangements,
etc
 
Please let me
know if you are interested in going, the number of persons attending, the
dates you will attend, etc.  Mickey and I are planning to arrive there
Sunday, Oct 8th and leave the following Sunday, Oct. 15th.  The Library is
closed on Sundays so we use this as our travel day.  :-) 

 
I am still
working on finding a little space (somewhere) that we can sit down and visit
with each other and exchange information. Any
suggestions are welcome! 
 
Wouldn't it be great if we could grill some fajitas con
cebolla, aguacate y tortillas and eat our tacos as we talk about our
ancestors???
 
Josie in San Antonio
=======================================================================================================

My friend, Ruth
Gomez Schirmacher from the FHC in Salt Lake City sent me the following
e-mail:
 
"Right now, we are looking at having some
advanced classes on Oct 13th and our regular conference for the local people and
anyone else on Sat. Oct. 14th.  George would be giving the classes Friday.
So I would imagine that your group would want to be here for the advanced
classes that will not be given on SAt. It will be nice to have this extra day of
classes. If your group has a topic which they want George to teach you can
suggest it. Also remember that as we get closer to the conference we will need
to know what films you need so we will have them at the library. Just inform
your group of the dates and have them block them out and we will have more
information as time goes by. It will be good to see you guys again."
 
The classes she refers
to for Friday, October 13th will be given by George Ryskamp.  This
is a wonderful opportunity to learn from the best! 
 
Please let me know if there are any specific topics you
would like addressed so I can let them know.  You can also be deciding on
which film you will be using there so it can be ordered prior to your
arrival. 
 
Thanks!
 
Josie in San
Antonio
 
 

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Davila
Sent:
Friday, March 17, 2006 12:18 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October

Joseph,


Could you send me some
info on this trip?  I’ve not yet been able to log onto the
sites.


 


Thanks,


Ed


 

From:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Puentes
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:32
AM
To: LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October


 



Do folks have an idea who
is going to go to the SLC trip in October?

Josie has worked hard to get
you information and it would be great if you gave that trip a serious look if
you are thinking you might go. I for one will not be going as much as I would
like to go.

If you think you might be going there is the matter of
choosing a topic for Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special
session of the seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on
nothing more than the Notario Records
and how to get a little better handle on how to research them.

So what
do you all think?

joseph


Hi!
 
Rich and Kitty:   I will miss not being able to
meet with you when you travel through Texas......as you probably know I will be
playing "Grandma" to a new little one in Switzerland.  Mickey has told me
you will meet with her so just "pretend" I am there too, ok?  
:-)   My spirit will be there!!!
 
<<<<<Kitty
gave a presentation on how to plan and prepare for a trip to the Salt Lake City
library.>>>>>
 
Alicia  mentions you made a presentation on how to
plan and prepare for a trip to SLC library........would you mind sharing with
the group to help them prepare for SLC in October 2006?  The first time I
went I bought the book "Going to Salt Lake City to do Family Research" by J.
Carlyle Parker and it helped me tremendously. ( I am not suggesting
everyone buy a book )  It helps a lot to be PREPARED in advance and it
saves a lot of time and frustration, doesn't it?  :-) 

 
<<<<<<We are generating an Excel
database that can track all the documents we need to find by family group, film
number and dates, whether marriage, baptism or other, this after having
identified in our database if it's a document found on the IGI or by some other
method.>>>>>>>
 
This sounds like a great time-saver!!!   It is
exactly what I need!!!    Can you share with us?  

 

<<<<<<<We are
lucky to have Rich and Kitty in this group. They are two truly remarkable and
talented people. They are very caring and giving people who not only bring their
gifts and talents but their kindness and humanity to all those who come into
contact with them. >>>>>>>
 
I
agree we are extremely lucky to have Rich and Kitty and so many other members of
Nuestros Ranchos that are in this category!  That is the beauty of
genealogy!   We are all one big family! 
 
Thanks
to all of you for sharing all your knowledge, tips, facts, etc. with all of
us.......it is truly appreciated!
 
Lots
of hugs from San Antonio,
 
Josie
 

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:10 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] SLC Trip in October
??

I am tentatively planning on attending in October but not sure. We will be
going to Zacatecas at the end of September for Las Fiestas Patronales of
Tlachichila and hope to be back by then.
 
My sister and I are planning a trip to Salt Lake in May and we are
preparing for our trip in accordance to Rich and Kitty Cortez' lesson. I don't
believe anyone presented the minutes of the March 4 Northern California meeting
in Sacramento.  
 
  I am so excited that I
know I squeak every time I think about it. We are generating an Excel database
that can track all the documents we need to find by family group, film number
and dates, whether marriage, baptism or other, this after having identified in
our database if it's a document found on the IGI or by some other method.
 
We are lucky to have Rich and Kitty in this group. They are two truly
remarkable and talented people. They are very caring and giving people who not
only bring their gifts and talents but their kindness and humanity to all those
who come into contact with them.
 
Thanks Rich and Kitty!!!

MMG8938@aol.com wrote:

Group:
 
It is going to be a wonderful trip.  Josie and I get
lost in the library....so busy we hardly have time to eat.  I am sure Geo
Ryschamp will speak on whatever subject people want....
 
Josie and I are both looking forward to meeting as many
Rancheros as we can!!!
 
Mickey

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  • To Members:
     
    I will be in touch with Geo Ryschamp.  I will suggest the
    "Notario" records.  Are you interested just in Mexico.  Just the
    areas...Jalisco/Zac/Aguas  ???
     
    In case I have lost you; I am referring to the October trip to
    Salt Lake City.
     
    Mickey

    Josie,

    Do you know who is planning the Conference in Salt Lake?

    Thanks,
    Jonathan

    Hi Jonathan!
     
    Legado Latino is planning the conference in October. 
    I spoke with Sherry Bush in Karen Jepson's office and Sherry provided me with
    the details.  Mickey and I hope to see you then!!!
     
    Josie in San Antonio

    From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
    [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mexicanfhr
    Sent:
    Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:20 PM
    To:
    ranchos@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [ranchos] Re: SLC Trip in
    October


    Josie,

    Do you know who is planning the Conference in Salt
    Lake?

    Thanks,
    Jonathan

    --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie
    T. Trevino" <Josiett3@...> wrote:
    >
    > Hi Ed!


    > Below is the info I posted to the group
    earlier........following
    that is the
    > update I posted a few days
    ago......please feel free to contact me
    if you
    > need more info or if
    you have any questions.  I am open to any
    suggestions.
    > Would
    love to have you join us.......So far I have about 10 persons
    > interested
    in going.

    > Thanks!

    > Josie in San
    Antonio
    >
    ============================================================================
    >
    ==============================

    > The Hispanic Conference in
    Salt Lake City will be held Saturday,
    October 14,
    > 2006.  I am
    expecting to receive the program schedule soon and will
    post it
    >
    then.  In the meantime, I have been informed that the Salt Lake
    Plaza
    Best
    > Western Hotel is now under new ownership. This has caused a
    price
    increase
    > in the hotel rate I had quoted in my previous e-mails.
    I contacted
    another
    > hotel and got good rates there as well.  I
    am providing both for your
    > convenience.

    >
    1.   Salt Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel changed their price
    to
    $82.00 plus
    > tax for a room for two persons.  (Previously they
    had quoted $80.00
    plus tax
    > for a room for up to 4 persons.) 
    Their website is: www.plaza-hotel.com
    > <BLOCKED::http://www.plaza-hotel.com>  and
    their toll free number is:
    > 1-800-366-3684.  You have to mention
    "Ranchos Genealogy Group" to
    get the
    > discounted price since there are
    a few rooms reserved for us.  There
    is NO
    > continental breakfast
    but they have a nice restaurant that serves a
    buffet
    > as well as good
    menu selections.  Since October is a very busy time
    for them
    > I
    was only able to hold a small block of rooms from October 8th through
    >
    October 15th.  You can choose to stay ANY number of days between Oct
    8th
    -
    > 15th.

    > 2.   Howard Johnson Express Inn
    offered us a rate of $35.00 plus tax
    (total
    > $39.32) for a single
    queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total
    > $55.05) for a room
    with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons.  Go to
    "Google"
    > and
    type in "Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their
    facility
    as
    > well as comments made by other guests who have stayed there. 
    Their toll
    > free number is:  1-800-541-7639.  Mention my name
    (Josie
    Trevino-Trevino)
    > and "Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special
    rate. They offer a FREE
    > continental breakfast and they are about two
    blocks from the
    Library.  There
    > is a free trolley that passes
    nearby and takes you to the Library if
    you do
    > not want to walk. 
    This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for
    any number
    > of days you
    might need......provided reservations are made EARLY. 


    > Mickey and I have stayed at both hotels in the past and like
    them
    equally
    > well.  The convenience of the Best Western Plaza
    Inn is that it is
    located
    > right next door to the Library.  Of
    course, you pay a little more
    for this
    > convenience.  The
    convenience of the Howard Johnson Express Inn is
    that you
    > can have
    your FREE continental breakfast, (coffee, juice, bagels, cold
    > cereal,
    etc) in your room and then either walk to the library or
    ride the
    >
    free trolley.

    > Each person will be responsible for making
    their own reservations,
    travel
    > arrangements, etc


    > Please let me know if you are interested in going, the number of
    persons
    > attending, the dates you will attend, etc.  Mickey and I
    are planning to
    > arrive there Sunday, Oct 8th and leave the following
    Sunday, Oct.
    15th.  The
    > Library is closed on Sundays so we use
    this as our travel day.  :-) 

    > I am still
    working on finding a little space (somewhere) that we can sit
    > down and
    visit with each other and exchange information. Any
    suggestions are
    >
    welcome! 

    > Wouldn't it be great if we could grill
    some fajitas con cebolla,
    aguacate y
    > tortillas and eat our tacos as
    we talk about our ancestors???

    > Josie in San
    Antonio
    >
    ============================================================================
    >
    ===========================
    > My friend, Ruth Gomez Schirmacher from the
    FHC in Salt Lake City
    sent me the
    > following e-mail:


    > "Right now, we are looking at having some advanced classes on
    Oct
    13th and
    > our regular conference for the local people and anyone
    else on Sat. Oct.
    > 14th.  George would be giving the classes Friday.
    So I would imagine
    that
    > your group would want to be here for the
    advanced classes that will
    not be
    > given on SAt. It will be nice to
    have this extra day of classes. If your
    > group has a topic which they
    want George to teach you can suggest
    it. Also
    > remember that as we get
    closer to the conference we will need to
    know what
    > films you need so
    we will have them at the library. Just inform your
    group
    > of the dates
    and have them block them out and we will have more
    information
    > as
    time goes by. It will be good to see you guys again."

    > The
    classes she refers to for Friday, October 13th will be given
    by
    George
    > Ryskamp.  This is a wonderful opportunity to learn
    from the best! 

    > Please let me know if there are any
    specific topics you would like
    addressed
    > so I can let them
    know.  You can also be deciding on which film you
    will be
    > using
    there so it can be ordered prior to your arrival.

    >
    Thanks!

    > Josie in San Antonio



    >
    >   _____ 
    >
    > From:
    ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On
    Behalf Of
    >
    Ed Davila
    > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:18 AM
    > To:
    ranchos@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: RE: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
    October
    >
    >
    >
    > Joseph,
    >
    > Could you
    send me some info on this trip?  I've not yet been able to log
    > onto
    the sites.
    >

    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    >
    Ed
    >

    >
    >   _____ 
    >

    > From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]
    On
    Behalf Of
    > Joseph Puentes
    > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006
    11:32 AM
    > To: LosRanchos
    > Subject: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
    October
    >

    >
    >
    > Do folks have an idea
    who is going to go to the SLC trip in October?
    >
    > Josie has
    worked hard to get you information and it would be great
    if you
    > gave
    that trip a serious look if you are thinking you might go. I
    for one
    >
    will not be going as much as I would like to go.
    >
    > If you think
    you might be going there is the matter of choosing a
    topic for
    >
    Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special session of the
    >
    seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on
    nothing
    more
    > than the Notario Records and how to get a little better handle on
    how to
    > research them.
    >
    > So what do you all
    think?
    >
    > joseph
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >

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