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Translation help for Father/Son Alviso back to back dispensas

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By Maureen Bejar - Posted on 18 August 2011

My Spanish is limited and I have found something curious. Mateo Alviso and his son Calixto Alviso had back to back dispensas done and I need help with the translation. Would someone be so kind to help me out? Mateo's dispensa for his marriage to Casimira Vasquez is San Miguel el Alto 1832-1855 image 197 page 178 and his son Calixto to Atanacia Gallardo (aka Martin) image 198 page 179 (the next page) Here is the link:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19022-42602-8%3Fcc%3D1874591%26wc%3D11127204

Thank you for any help!

Hello Mytmo,

I took a look at the images you mentioned and I did not see anything that
was worth pulling out. It looks like they are just a confirmations that the
dispensations were granted in Guadalajara. I would look for the original
dispensa in Guadalajara for any details on these marriages.

-Angelina-

-----Original Message-----
From: mytmo@netnitco.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:17 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Translation help for Father/Son Alviso back
toback dispensas

My Spanish is limited and I have found something curious. Mateo Alviso and
his son Calixto Alviso had back to back dispensas done and I need help with
the translation. Would someone be so kind to help me out? Mateo's dispensa
for his marriage to Casimira Vasquez is San Miguel el Alto 1832-1855 image
197 page 178 and his son Calixto to Atanacia Gallardo (aka Martin) image 198
page 179 (the next page) Here is the link:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/pal%3A/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19022-42602-8%3Fcc%3D1874591%26wc%3D11127204

Thank you for any help!

Thank you, Angelina, I will try Guadalajara.

Hi Maureen

I went to see the file you mentioned and I, as Angelina, didn’t see noting exceptional just the need of dispensation for the coupe because they were related in 3th grade. That means that they were may be cousins. You will more certain of their kinship when you´ll find their Guadalajara´s records. I transcribed the entire document 1 in Spanish (as you see my English in not handsome at all!) I hope this way it will be easier to understand.

In the second document the details are the same, but the date (16 and 30 sep) and the names of the couple. That´s odd more if you said they are father and son. Is it possible that they were brothers instead of father and son?

I attach here the document, good luck!

http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/filemanager/active?fid=3926

Jorge Elias
Miami, FL

Dear Jorge:
Thank you so much, that helps! Now another question. I have look at the Guadajara records and there are cofraidias ordenes, etc, but no dispensas. Can someone direct me to the Guadalajara dispensas? Where might they be found?

Maureen Bejar

Most dispensas are found in the Matrimonios volumes of Diócesis de
Guadalajara
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/waypoint/11120261

There are also some dispensas under San Juan de los Lagos
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/waypoint/11120327

Armando

On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:08 AM, wrote:

> Dear Jorge:
> Thank you so much, that helps! Now another question. I have look at the
> Guadajara records and there are cofraidias ordenes, etc, but no dispensas.
> Can someone direct me to the Guadalajara dispensas? Where might they be
> found?
>
> Maureen Bejar

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